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Spugg Galdon
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:39:00 -
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Hyperion:
Personally I would have reduced the number of turrets to 6 and given it a 10% damage bonus + and extra heavy drone. Then moved a high to a low leaving a 7 - 5 - 7 layout. This would probably have fixed a large number of problems the Hyperion faces but that's just me.
Megathron:
I would have given this ship an extra turret and reduced drones to 50 M/Bit (5 Mediums). Then left the slot layout as is and reduced the mass of the ship and slightly lowered EHP (even though most people have said a big problem with BS's is that they aren't tough enough compared to CBC's). Attack ships should be ganky and agile. Also 8 turrets work well in fleet ops.
Dominix:
Not sure I like your changes. The new Armageddon essentially relegates the neut Domi to oblivion. I think the biggest problem with drone ships as fleet ships currently is how difficult it is to fit drone upgrades to your ship and how poor they can sometimes be. Also, the fact sentries can't return to drone bay and must be scooped is a big problem too. However you are addressing these issues by considering to allow sentry drones to return under their own propulsion.
I think you may need to reconsider the Armageddon's neut range bonus in the other thread. It is extremely powerful and makes the Baalgorn look silly. I would prefer, if it is your intention, to give the geddon a tracking disruptor bonus whilst keeping it's new drone bonus and push it into the Disruption battleship (DBS) role but that is for the other thread. |
Spugg Galdon
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Posted - 2013.04.10 15:10:00 -
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Holy poop box.
That's two times in a row my feedback has either
A) been listened to and applied
or
B) I somehow knew exactly what CCP were gonna do.
Can I please think that it was option "A"? It will make me blood up a little and everything.
Hyperion is now EXACTLY how I've always wanted it to be, it's just a little slow. Also, with that extra low the 9 effective turrets + and extra heavy drone + being able to actually fit a MFS II gives moar deeps. I am gonna cream myself!!! Has it had it's PG reduced or not cause -2 guns frees up heaps of PG which it needs. |
Spugg Galdon
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Posted - 2013.04.10 19:29:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Tennessee Jack wrote:
If the bonuses are equivalent to 8 high slots.. could care less. We get more use off having mids and lows than we have having highs in these situations.
They're not. 8*1.25 = 10. 6*1.5 = 9, 7*1.25 = 8.75. Yikes.
Mega has a 5% rof bonus which works out to more than 25% basic damage bonus. I don't know the exact figure but I blieve the effective "damage donus" from a 25% rof bonus is actually more like a 33% damage bonus.
With that in mind the mega has 7 x 1.33 effective turrets which = 9.3
I'm sure that's more or less correct but please look into it further for me |
Spugg Galdon
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Posted - 2013.04.10 19:43:00 -
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Pattern Clarc wrote:Hyperion vs Megathron
Base speed/agility: Megathron
Base Targeting Range/Resolution: Megathron
Signature: Megathron
Turret Damage: Megathron
Max Resists: Megathron
EHP: Hyperion
Active tanking: Hyperion
Max DPS: Hyperion
Utility: Hyperion
Essentially. I can honestly see the Megathron becoming a fleet ship too. The slot layout, tracking bonus and RoF bonus all make this ship very good at long range fleet ops of ye olde days. The Talos only beats it in mobility as the Mega will have range and the ability to survive getting alpha'd. |
Spugg Galdon
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Posted - 2013.04.10 19:55:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:OK, will adjust.
1056 dps for Megathron(1 mag stab), 956 dps for Hyperion + 36 for HAM = 990 dps.
We're down to 7 m/s and 66 more dps for "equivalently fit" Megathron vs Hyperion. Is that enough of a separation, or is Hyperion invading Megathron's niche too much?
I think the fact that the Hyperion steps on the toes of the Megathron in terms of mobility is actually intended. Gallente blaster boats after all are supposed to air towards being attack ships. The Megathron has the beauty of being a good combat or attack BS too. |
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